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February 12, 2010

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Matt

The Comedian is lifted from Peacemaker, not the Punisher.

God, I'm a geek...

Matthew

Well, there go - Peacemaker, also owned by DC.

From a creative point of view, there's nothing necessarily wrong with including an exact copy as part of your work. The point is that you have to have permission, if the work is still in copyright (and that will usually involve paying a fee).

See: any number of tracks that use sampling. Also: The Limey*, which includes scenes from Poor Cow.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limey

Bonita

Gosh! I have just stumbled across this, how aweful. I can't believe that one artist could do this to another. I am glad you now have your apology but surely you deserve more - a cut of the profit from their ilgotten gains may be?

Urrrr!
B x

Rep_online

Hi Eloise

Vikki Chowney here, editor of Reputation Online (thank you for your comments on our story about the Paperchase issues by the way!)

As you know, we covered this as it was unfolding and at the time, I was concerned about the somewhat over-dramatic focus by some on Twitter's role in this whole debacle. I'm saddened to now hear that Paperchase has a) as you say, passed the buck entirely onto this second designer and b) has chosen to use this as an example of the 'evils' of social media.

I can't tell you how frustrating that is. I do my job and write about brand/business use of the online world in an attempt to make it more accessible. To educate and help people trying to work out to use social media and the like properly.

I wrote my column on Friday (for new media age, I'll ping you a link when it goes out tomorrow) about the real problem here. It's customer service. It's the basic principles of dealing with a complaint. They did it badly, and you've blogged it. The real issue is Paperchase not just holding its hands up and admitting it.

The sad thing is that it all could have been turned around in five minutes, instead of it blowing up to become a case study that I will inevitably have rammed down my throat to highlight how 'things can go wrong' at various conferences over the next six months.

Well done for getting that apology in the end and sticking to your guns.

VC

Matthew

Just read some more about the genesis of Watchmen, it's quite interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen#Background_and_creation

Just reinforces the idea here that the issue isn't originality vs non-originality, it's about having the value of the work you've done recognized.

sofia

I really feel for you Eloise. This must be a nightmare and I want you to know that you have handled this in the best possible way. You've shown your anger and upset about having your original artwork copied but at the same time you have had the grace not to publicly lash out at the artist who copied your image. I think the email you sent her was incredibly kind and shows your true character. You have put the blame where it really should be put; at Paperchase. Of course the designer is not innocent here, the image is obviously traced and even if ref material is widely used when creating I think everyone knows when a line has been crossed. It creeped me out when I read the designers comment here, she seemed to be so so very scared of Paperchase. Her anxiety was there for everyone to see. Paperchase should be ashamed for the way they've handled this situation.

laura

Former Attorney misses the point. Paperchase was made aware of a potential problem and they ignored Eloise completely---as they can ignore most people who make claims such as hers. It was only when they began to feel the pressure from the twitter and email campaigns that they investigated and offered up their design company---they may not have made the original mistake, but they certainly only removed the product after the intense pressure was applied---they would never have done so if they weren't essentially forced...this is what makes it so frustrating---we know that Eloise got lucky...many designers wouldn't have.

Zohaib

So basically someone else has copied your design and sold it and yet you still blame paperchase (?!) seriously?! I dont understand why you think they should apologise for someone else's mistake. If anyone should be apologising its the people sending hate mail and angry tweets to paperchase, who as far as i can see are the innocent victims. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Matt

Zohaib = reading comprehension fail.

Tina

I admire the way you've handled the situation, and I'm sorry for all the anger directed at you. Unfortunately there are too many naive "artists" that think they can just grab in image off the internet, do a little something to it in photoshop and call it they're own. On the other hand, it's also through the internet that the plagiary is caught by other fellow artists. We artists and designers need to stick together! Drawing inspiration from other artists is one thing, but to blatantly copy without the artists' permission or knowledge is not proper. I doubt the offending artist would have had the gall to copy/trace a Disney character and call it her own. I trust she's learned her lesson. I love your work by the way! As soon as I find a home (I'm traveling through the year), I'll be visiting your shop!

Josie

Sounds like Paperchase are a victim in all of this. If they purchase a design it is up to the artist to ensure they have not copied anything, it would be impsosible for Paperchase to check if a design is a rip off!!

They would have lost sales for any products taken off sale which they have paid to produce, ship and get into store.

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